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For a general guide of what power's going to be available and for tips on using power wisely, please read these
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[[Guidelines for fair usage of power at Climate Camp 2008]].
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== What's coming and Power requirements ==
 
== What's coming and Power requirements ==
 
[[Guidelines for fair usage of power at Climate Camp 2008]]
 
  
 
===Ben===
 
===Ben===
  
  * Draytek dual WAN/3G router (with unlocked 3G modem, three & t-mobile PAYG sims) with wifi and higain omnis plus 11dBi directional 3g antenna = 15 watts
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* Draytek dual WAN/3G router (with unlocked 3G modem, three & t-mobile PAYG sims) with wifi and higain omnis plus 11dBi directional 3g antenna = 15 watts
  * wifi client/ethernet bridge (so we can connect LAN to another nearby tent without wires)
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* wifi client/ethernet bridge (so we can connect LAN to another nearby tent without wires)
  * x3 Thinkpad X20 (PIII, 800mhz), PSU, no drives but boots over PXE = ~25 watts each
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* x3 Thinkpad X20 (PIII, 800mhz), PSU, no drives but boots over PXE = ~25 watts each
  * x1 sub-notebook PII 333mhz, 15v, firewire, pccard ethernet, needs hd, no os currently = ~22 watts
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* x1 sub-notebook PII 333mhz, 15v, firewire, pccard ethernet, needs hd, no os currently = ~22 watts
  * 2ghz dual core laptop with firewire = ~80 watts
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* 2ghz dual core laptop with firewire = ~80 watts
  * Peavey RQ200 mixer for radio (can run on x2 9v PP3 batteries) = ~5 watts
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* Peavey RQ200 mixer for radio (can run on x2 9v PP3 batteries) = ~5 watts
  * x2 24 port gigabit switch (if needed) = ~20w each
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* x2 24 port gigabit switch (if needed) = ~20w each
  * x2 GSM gatewayes = 5w each
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* x2 GSM gatewayes = 5w each
  * x2 GSM skypephones
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* x2 GSM skypephones
  * Zoom ATA 5801
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* Zoom ATA 5801
  * wifi IP phone
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* wifi IP phone
  * x2 plug in energy meters  
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* x2 plug in energy meters  
  * plus power stuff listed elsewhere
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* plus power stuff listed elsewhere
  
 
===Bristol Wireless===
 
===Bristol Wireless===
  
  * up to x18 thin clients for open access suite =~ 360w
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* up to x18 thin clients for open access suite =~ 360w
  * ltps server, switch, psu, cables etc = ~25w (that can't be right?)
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* ltps server, switch, psu, cables etc = ~25w (that can't be right?)
  
 
Overall power consumption of this suite with 18 terminals should be around 400 watts maximum.  With 12 terminals, this will be about 260 watts.  Note that the more terminals are connected, the more efficient the suite is.
 
Overall power consumption of this suite with 18 terminals should be around 400 watts maximum.  With 12 terminals, this will be about 260 watts.  Note that the more terminals are connected, the more efficient the suite is.
  
  * sateliite internet terminal =~ 50w
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* sateliite internet terminal =~ 50w
  * wireless access point/router =~ 5w (12 volt)
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* wireless access point/router =~ 5w (12 volt)
  
 
Overall measured power consumption for satellite dish, modem, router, ltsp server and suite of up to 20 terminals is 500w maximum.
 
Overall measured power consumption for satellite dish, modem, router, ltsp server and suite of up to 20 terminals is 500w maximum.
  
  * HP OJ printer/scanner/fax/copier =~ 26w
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* HP OJ printer/scanner/fax/copier =~ 26w
  
 
===Media Team===
 
===Media Team===
  
  * 2 thin clients = 35w
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* 2 thin clients = 35w
  * charging for 3 - 5 mobile phones. = ~10w
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* charging for 3 - 5 mobile phones. = ~10w
  
 
===Radio Team===
 
===Radio Team===
  
* 4 laptops  
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* 4 laptops (2 for editing = 70w, 1 for streaming = 30w (this should be the LTSP server) and 1 for live stuff = 35w)
  2 for editing = 70w  
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* 1 x mixer = 10w
  1 for streaming = 30w (this should be the LTSP server)  
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* monitor amp and speakers = 20w
  1 for live stuff = 35w
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* iRiver MPEG-3 recorders
* 1 x mixer = 10w
 
* monitor amp and speakers = 20w
 
* iRiver MPEG-3 recorders
 
  
 
===Undercurrents===
 
===Undercurrents===
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Undercurrents say that they're bringing:
 
Undercurrents say that they're bringing:
  
* 3 x video cameras = 30w max (if charging)
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* 3 x video cameras = 30w max (if charging)
* 1 x video mixer
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* 1 x video mixer
* 1 x laptop = 40w
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* 1 x laptop = 40w
  
They will not be requiring to use these all day, but will require some use during the day.  Probably between 2 to 4 hours absolute maximum.
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Undercurrents will not be requiring to use these all day, but will require some use during the day.  Probably between 2 to 4 hours absolute maximum.
  
 
===Photo desk===
 
===Photo desk===
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34w screen off, 41 watts typical, no change with or without battery which I guess was charged.
 
34w screen off, 41 watts typical, no change with or without battery which I guess was charged.
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122w to 130w!!! when charging a flat battery.
  
  
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* Linksys 24 port gigabit router 20 watts
 
* Linksys 24 port gigabit router 20 watts
 
  
 
== Power Requirement Calculations ==
 
== Power Requirement Calculations ==

Latest revision as of 08:40, 30 July 2008

For a general guide of what power's going to be available and for tips on using power wisely, please read these Guidelines for fair usage of power at Climate Camp 2008.

What's coming and Power requirements

Ben

  • Draytek dual WAN/3G router (with unlocked 3G modem, three & t-mobile PAYG sims) with wifi and higain omnis plus 11dBi directional 3g antenna = 15 watts
  • wifi client/ethernet bridge (so we can connect LAN to another nearby tent without wires)
  • x3 Thinkpad X20 (PIII, 800mhz), PSU, no drives but boots over PXE = ~25 watts each
  • x1 sub-notebook PII 333mhz, 15v, firewire, pccard ethernet, needs hd, no os currently = ~22 watts
  • 2ghz dual core laptop with firewire = ~80 watts
  • Peavey RQ200 mixer for radio (can run on x2 9v PP3 batteries) = ~5 watts
  • x2 24 port gigabit switch (if needed) = ~20w each
  • x2 GSM gatewayes = 5w each
  • x2 GSM skypephones
  • Zoom ATA 5801
  • wifi IP phone
  • x2 plug in energy meters
  • plus power stuff listed elsewhere

Bristol Wireless

  • up to x18 thin clients for open access suite =~ 360w
  • ltps server, switch, psu, cables etc = ~25w (that can't be right?)

Overall power consumption of this suite with 18 terminals should be around 400 watts maximum. With 12 terminals, this will be about 260 watts. Note that the more terminals are connected, the more efficient the suite is.

  • sateliite internet terminal =~ 50w
  • wireless access point/router =~ 5w (12 volt)

Overall measured power consumption for satellite dish, modem, router, ltsp server and suite of up to 20 terminals is 500w maximum.

  • HP OJ printer/scanner/fax/copier =~ 26w

Media Team

  • 2 thin clients = 35w
  • charging for 3 - 5 mobile phones. = ~10w

Radio Team

  • 4 laptops (2 for editing = 70w, 1 for streaming = 30w (this should be the LTSP server) and 1 for live stuff = 35w)
  • 1 x mixer = 10w
  • monitor amp and speakers = 20w
  • iRiver MPEG-3 recorders

Undercurrents

Undercurrents say that they're bringing:

  • 3 x video cameras = 30w max (if charging)
  • 1 x video mixer
  • 1 x laptop = 40w

Undercurrents will not be requiring to use these all day, but will require some use during the day. Probably between 2 to 4 hours absolute maximum.

Photo desk

Power requirements we will have one laptop (under 30watts charge) plus ext Hard drive powered of laptops USB 5 Volt and occasional camera battery charger This will be used between 4 of us, but if others wish to use it no problem, it also has audacity and firewire and premier pro so can double as video editing etc

Be The Media Newswire Desk

maybe two thin clients = 40w

Here we ought to include a guesstimate of other laptops and cameras etc involved for video editing and news desk reporting during and immediately following the days of mass action.

Power Examples

" if you want to wring the most energy efficiency out of your notebook computer, take the battery out when it's plugged in. Doing so has a side benefit, as well. Certain types of batteries will wear out faster if they undergo the constant recharging that occurs each time you plug your notebook into an electrical outlet. So by removing the battery, you'll both save electricity and extend the life of the batter itself. "

These are real world examples just to give some idea of what we are likely to encounter.


  • Toshiba Satellite Pro A100 with 2ghz Core2Duo, 15.4 inch screen, wifi, the works

34w screen off, 41 watts typical, no change with or without battery which I guess was charged.

122w to 130w!!! when charging a flat battery.


  • IBM Thinkpad X20, PIII 800mhz, 12 inch screen with hard drive fitted

20w up to 32w during drive access. With charged battery in place it average perhaps 3w higher.


  • Sony Vaio PCG-N505X PII 333mhz, 10 inch screen

20 - 29 watts when laptop is on, with hard drive spinning

7 watts when the battery is in but laptop off

3 watts just for the power supply unplugged or in machine when off and no battery


  • Dell Inspiron 300m ultaportable, 2003 vintage Pentium M 1.2GHz low voltage processor 12.1" screen

(source http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000562.html)

Laptop off, battery charging 63w

Laptop on, idle, battery removed 15w

All subsequent tests were run with the battery physically removed from the machine.

Turning screen brightness to minimum saved 4w

hard drive in use added 3w

wifi enabled added 1w to 4w

cpu under 100% load added11w


  • Various Apple notebooks

(source http://www.girr.org/mac_stuff/laptop_power.html)

15" 1.25 GHz G4 PowerBook, 18w to 41w, average 25w, charging 65w

12" 1.2 GHz G4 iBook, 12w to 25w, average 16w, charging 43w

12" 500 MHz G3 iBook, 11w to 24w, average 15w, charging 32w

display backlight consumed 4.5 more watts from the minimum brightness setting to the full brightness settin

  • Acer Aspire 9425WSMi

(http://techlogg.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=294)

With the notebook off but the battery charging, the unit consumed 73.7-watts. No change in power consumption whether the notebook was “resting” on the Windows desktop or charging through one of our UserBench benchtests. The result was the same – 85.6-watts!!!

  • Lenovo 3000 N100

(http://techlogg.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=294)

Charging up the battery, the power consumption was 40.6-watts

Sitting on Windows desktop and charging the battery at the same time, power draw rose to 63 watts.

By the time we cranked up UserBench Audio 2007, that consumption topped 80.1-watts


  • Sony’s Vaio VGN-TX47GP 12-inch model in various states.

(http://techlogg.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=294)

With the notebook off and the battery charging, it consumed 24.2-watts. Boot up into Windows desktop and the cost is 37.1-watts. By the time we through our UserBench Audio 2007 benchmark at it, the power reached 41.2-watts.

  • Dell Latitude 820D with Core2Duo processor and 17" LCD 30 watts (not charging)
  • Linksys NSLU2 which can run linux uses 7 watts
  • Linksys 24 port gigabit router 20 watts

Power Requirement Calculations

First attempts here...

Minimum

This is bear minimum to provide on site phones and internet access on demand at any time when nothing else is in use. The figure is lowest if 3G works on site. The sat kits uses about 70 watts compared to 15 watts for the 3G wireless router.

  • 12w 3G router

or 50w if satellite is the only option

  • 35w server plus drive (may be OTT)
  • 30w ip phones and pbx box (this is a guess as I don't know what the pbx is running on)
  • 20w Switch (not included in earlier calculations)

Total = 97w - 132w for perhaps 16 hrs/24

1.55kwh to 2.11kwh over 16 hours

Average

In addition to the bear minimum which would be used even when nobody is using anything, we can add a minimum typical use of two or three thin clients being used during the day by the media team, people needings to look something up etc. Beyond that, average use might also include the photo desk, the full thin client suite and the TV studio.

  • 35w for two thin clients
  • 97w minimum with 3G and no sat

plus

  • 130w for the full thin client suite (8 terminals)
  • 50w with the satellite for more bandwidth

or

  • 35w photo desk
  • 75w for tv studio
  • 70w for two people using their own laptops, battery unplugged

Total = 312w for 6 hrs/24

~1.87kwh over 6 hours

(add minimum and average together to get 1.55 + 1.87 = 3.42 kwh per day)

Maximum

The peak use will probably be during the day of action with all the public public access terminals in use, all possible internet connectivity up and running, people using all the additional thin clients for newswire work, press statements etc plus the photo desk and people using their own machines to process and upload photos or video.

  • 492w for all the average stuff
  • 35w for two additional thin clients
  • 25w for random cameras and phones left on charge
  • 40w for another laptop in the video suite, battery unplugged
  • 100w for stuff in the radio suite (total guess)
  • 80w for two more people (4 now) using their own laptops, batteries unplugged

Total = 772w for 6 hrs on day of action

~4.63kwh during that 6 hours alone and another 1.55kw to make up the whole day, so that's 6.1kwh

Power Calculations, attempt 2

The Phone System

20w * Asterisk PBX box (Lloyd) 5w * Six IP phones (Lloyd) 2w * Two ATAs with FXO&FXS (Ben's Zoom plus one other, Lloyd?) 4w * Two TELULAR SX53e GSM gateways (Ben) 4w * Two WP-S1 Skypephones (Ben)

(be useful to know the what the PBX is running on as I've just guessed the power)

Total 35w 24/7 = 0.840kwh

Off site, the phone system will also make use of Blasterisk (in Colorado) and two always on windows boxes anywhere with broadband. We don't need to worry about that power consumption.

The Internet System

11w * Draytek 2910 VG dual WAN router with Wifi (Ben) 1w * Haewui E220 unlocked 3G modem with hi gain antenna (Ben) 70w * Satellite TX RX modem (Mike) 20w * Switch (BW? Mike? or Ben?) 30w * Server running squid, apache, LTSP (BW or Mike?)

Total 62w 24/7 with 3G only = 1.48kwh or 117w 24/7 with Satellite only = 2.8kwh or 132w 8/24 with both, plus 62w 16/24 3G only over night = 2kwh

Computers

130w * 8 thin clients for web suite (BW) Total 130w 4/24 = 0.52kwh

70w * 4 thin clients for other uses (BW) 70w * Three IBM Thinkpad X20 (Ben) Total 140w 8/24 = 1.12kwh

Total So Far

2 + 0.52 + 1.12 + 0.84 = 4.48 kwh per day

This doesn't specifically include tv studio, random charging or anyone using their own laptops. I think the radio and TV studio could take the figure closer to 5.5 kwh or even 6 kwh per day.

To put all that into perspective my 200w worth of solar panels would produce 1 kwh per day assuming 5 hours of full sunshine. That means we'd need 1,000 watts of solar (assuming plenty of sunshine) to cover out needs (not factoring in charging and invertor inefficiencies).

Or look at a wind gene rated at 200w at 6m/s (about 1m/s over the average wind speed in that location measured over a whole year) and for ease of calculating, lets say it achieves that rated speed for just 25% of the time. That would mean 1.2kwh per day, about a quarter of our needs. But if we experienced over average winds we'd could see 100% of our needs supplied.

TV studio

20w * Three video cameras, with batteries charging (Undercurrents) 5w * video mixer [that's a guess] (Undercurrents) 80w * Two laptops, batteries unplugged, for direct to disk capturing and editing.

Total 105w 7/24 = 0.74 kwh per day

That's assuming seven hours of work each day shooting, mixing, edit and capturing but not including any additional editing time, equipment or charging beyond that time.

Radio Studio

Note sure about this. Think the LTSP server will provide their streaming box so is already covered and I've already factored in the thinkpads which they might use for audio editing. I don't know anything about their decks, amps etc but that can't be much and won't be running for long either.

two daily two hour shows, starting with one show on the 3rd aug and the last shows on the 10th. which is 15 shows, 30 hours of content max.

Each show would require the streaming server (on anyway) plus:

monitor amp and speakers ~20 w one laptop used as player ~35 w one mixer ~10 w maybe a couple of mp3 players on charge ~10 w

total = 75 w for two hours per show or four hours per day = 0.3 kwh per day

Making the content, editing, charging recorders etc during each day will take about two or three hours.

two laptops for editing ~70 - 80w four of five things on charge ~ 20 w

total = 100 w for three hours per day = 0.3 kwh per day

Total total = 0.6kwh (plus a little bit for lights and tx)

Power provision we know about

To work out max hours for supply of a certain amount of power take the number of ampere hours (Ah) and divide by the required power consumption and multiply by the DC voltage. For example, for 200 watts running on a 1,000 Ah system:

1000 Ah * 12 volts / 200 watts = 60 hours

Provider Type/set-up Max hours @ 200w Max hours @ 800w
Sat Van built-in 12volts x 220Ah, 2 x 85w panels 220/200*12 = 13.2 220/800*12 = 3.3
Ben 6 x 100Ah 12v batteries, 2 x 80w pv, 2 x 30w pv, 4 x 10w pv, 20amp pv regulator, 600w cont invertor, 300w cont invertor, wind turbine 200w@6m/s plus dump regulator, 600/200*12 = 36 600/800*12 = 9
20 x 225Ah 6v batteries = 2,250 Ah @ 12VDC; 1,000 watts of solar panels. 2250/200*12 = 135 2250/800*12 = 33.75
Sam UNTESTED - Brand new rig, Batteries in a slightly unknown state. 24v/ 240v x 2000ah. No panels. 1kw wind turbine. Inverter rated 3kw.

As a further example of a system, Ray Mundo's 2,250 Ah system would be able to provide 500 watts for 8 hours a day for 6 days (500/240 * 12 * 6 * 8 = 1,920 amps) without any charging at all, but then would be completely dead.

When charging, with a decent day of sunshine, it would be able to recuperate at around 40 amps per hour in midday sun. So with sunny conditions around noon, drawing 500 watts would not drain the overall power store in the system.

A charging rate of 40amp/h means he has at least ~500w of solar panels (probably twice that as they never kick out their max rated output). Assuming 6 hours of decent sunshine each day that is a daily output of 3kwh. So far, it looks like our average daily consumption will be 5kwh (perhaps up to 6kwh during the busiest parts of the days of action).